Treaties (Negotiations)

Letter from Ugalde to virrey Conde de Galvez concerning eight provisions included in peace treaty that governor of Texas has proposed with comanches and the doubts, questions, and problems that Ugalde has with the provisions.

Serial Number
041-05005
Title
Letter from Ugalde to virrey Conde de Galvez concerning eight provisions included in peace treaty that governor of Texas has proposed with comanches and the doubts, questions, and problems that Ugalde has with the provisions.
Author(s)
Ugalde, Juan de (Coronel)
Date
02-23-1786
Documentation
Santa Rosa/Mexico. February 23, 1786. 36p. Letters. Copies.
Summary
Letter speaks of a peace plan with Comanches, the first part a meeting of three Comanche captains with governor of Texas governor of Luisiana would like to know the particulars of this meeting and what and how much was given to the Comanches in the form of bribes or keepsakes, Ugalde wants to highlight the contradictions in this effort, mentions that they are the only remaining cannibalistic tribe, and cites information found in correspondence of governor of Texas to underline the violent nature of the Comanches and their history of being the most obstinate of the enemies of the Spanish, sees little hope in a peace plan with them, contrasts the character of the Comanches with that of the Apache Lipanes, group that most involves itself with the church, have fought against the Apache Mescaleros and thereby pleased the Spanish, Ugalde expresses concerns that peace with Comanches under very favorable terms will incite the jealousy of other tribes as well as a reexamination of their status, cites the lack of a mechanism to enforce compliance from Comanches as a drawback to proposed peace (Spanish have never entered Comanche territory to punish past hostilities for example). Feels that free transit of Comanches would be used to their benefit in further hostilities, thinks that verification of captives being held by Comanches should be part of the plan, accuses the makers of the plan of using trade provisions to enhance their own commerce and feels that a black market will be the result, questions the ability of enforcing compliance to a treaty provision that will have the Comanches establish their intertribal relations on the Basis of the ones followed by the Spanish, sees little motivation to expect the Comanches to declare themselves enemies of Apaches as treaty provides. Treaty will allow them to have their internal taxes, would like more intelligence of when Indian groups enter area near San Pedro for carneadas so Spanish can be prepared for unexpected occurrences, thinks that the alliance that would ensue between Lipanes and Mescaleros would create a force that would offset the untenable peace that will have been established with the Comanches, Ugalde mentions the progress he is making in the reduction of Mescaleros precisely because they are not Allied. In regard to provision that states that as long as Comanches are Allied with Spanish they will receive gratificaciones Ugalde argues that in the past those periods of greatest hostility with Comanches were usually preceeded by periods in which this transfer of goods was high. Mentions arms in this matter. In summing up Ugalde mentions law that forbids people to show Indians their trade and also forbids them to live in their houses with the penalty being 100 pesos or upon the discretion of virrey exile. Has questions about how to determine what faction of Comanches in the future will be committing the hostilities because of the size of the group and the varied interests that each group has. (O. Velez, October 1989)
Persons
Ugalde, Juan de (Coronel)
Cavello, Domingo (Coronel)(Governador)
Vial, Pedro
Chavez, Francisco Xavier de
Oconor, Hugo (Comandante Inspector)
Croix, Cavallero de (Comandante General)
Parrilla, (Brigadier)
Places
Luisiana
San Antonio Besar
Bahia
Vizcaya (Presidio)
Santa Rosa
Ethnic Groups
Apaches
Lipanes
Mescaleros
Comanches
Taquayais
Guachitais
Taquacanas
Flechanos
Yzcanis
First Location
AZTM, AGN, Vol. 228 ff. 089-106
Original Location
AGN, Mexico City, Provincias Internas Vol. 228 ff. 089-106
Language
Spanish
Notes
This series is included in expediente 3 of the indice del ramo de Provincias Internas
Reference Number
22800008
UAIR Filtering Fields
Person Last Name
Ugalde
Cavello
Vial
Chavez
Oconor
Croix
Parrilla
Beginning Date Month
February
Beginning Date (repacked)
02-23-1786
Type
Text
UAiR identifier
uadc://masterindex/12239
ISO 369-1 Language code
es
ISO 369-3 Language code
spa
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